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Coy Barefoot speaks with Liz Seccuro, a woman who claims to have been raped while a first year student at UVA in the fall of 1984. Her alleged attacker, William Beebe, contacted her last year to apologize, and is now awaiting trial on the charges. For the latest on the story, check out the Hook.

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  33 Responses to “Charlottesville–Right Now: An update from Liz Seccuro”

  1. I empathize with Ms Securro and admire her courage in stepping forward to tell her story as a means of raising awareness on college campus rapes. I feel that one cannot overstate the impact that such an event can have on one’s psyche and it behooves us to be more sensitive to similar incidents. Having said that, I disagree with her insistence on charges being laid on Mr. Beebe and I feel that the decision was purely motivated by spite and anger. I understand that she has every right to be angry but a big part of forgiveness is being able to push beyond emotional pain in the pursuit of actions that will lead to the best possible outcome. Mr. Beebe sitting in a jail cell is not the optimal outcome in this situation and it does not benefit society, as we will now have to incur the cost of his incarceration. Moreover, given the fact that he does not represent a threat to society (he was clearly remorseful and tried to make restitutions), I feel that the optimal outcome would have been achieved if Mr. Beebe had been asked to make amends in another manner (eg- volunteer at homeless shelters X hrs per week for the rest of his life). It is unfortunate that Ms Securro is as vindictive as she is. Despite her claims that she is in her “heart of hearts a forgiving person,” her actions betray her true self (especially in light of the comment posted above). Ms. Securro, may your transgressions never be forgiven and may your debts always be collected in full.

  2. I read this story the other day. I feel Liz is right to feel the way she does. She was hurt, very hurt by a man, who didn’t care what he did to her. And being a recovering alcoholic, he never should have expected her to respond any other way than she did. He admitted to a crime and no amends erase a crime. In program, you are expected to take the consequences of your actions. That is working the program, and I got so mad, that when the charges appeared, he denied it. He is not recovering, he just has a guity conscious. Good luck, Liz

  3. I know a few women that have become victims of this sort. One thing I will never know, along with any other man, is to what depth this harms them. Judging from the vengence sought after Mr. Beebe, it seems to still strike a deep chord. Best of luck Mrs. Securro

  4. Just saw the MSNBC account of Ms. Securro’s ordeal. Non of what has happened 21 years ago should ever be played down. William Nottingham Beebe committed violence against a young woman, a felony, and now it may turn out to have been even more horrific as a gang rape of a drugged-up-against-her-will innocent 17 year old. At that time, it appears the UVA officials somewhat dismissed it. Thomas Jefferson would be so proud!

    What happens on college campuses socially in the last several decades is atrocious…it’s a sewer quite frankly. Men who act like criminals don’t belong in college, they belong in jail for a long time. A real man doesn’t behave this way. Real men protect women.

    Ms. Securro did the brave and courageous thing to confront this William Beebe, who I think is a sociopath. His contacting her 21 years later is like raping her again. He doesn’t care at all about her. He is a professional victimizer, taunting her and Ms. Securro had the strength to see right through it.

    Beebe and any of the other men involved who could be identified, all need to be punished. What happened is not acceptable, to put it mildly. This was not consensual sex!

    And if anyone thinks rape isn’t a violent crime with serious consequences which should just be forgotten when the rapist 21 years later has the sociopathic gaul to contact the victim again, they should experience a rape. We’ll interview you afterwards.

    God Bless Ms. Seccuro and her husband and family.

  5. Dear Peter: I wonder if what happened to Ms. Securro had happened to your Mother, Sister, Wife, Daughter, Girlfriend you would take such an unmanly, wimpy stand. Perhaps you mean well, but you are clueless. You have totally missed the profound emotion and injustice of the entire situation and only see it intellectually, economically.

  6. I’ll make this short. Beebe should have gone to the Charlottesville police and reported his crime. Amends don’t amount to anything if, as they say, “if you can’t do the time, then don’t commit the crime”. He’s a baseless, chickenshit, wimp. I wouldn’t believe Beebe if his tongue was notorized. I’ll save my sympathy for Liz and her family. And for those of you who feel sorry for Beebe, then let the Beebes’ of the world penetrate your life.

  7. While what happened to Liz is a horrible crime, I am concerned that Mr. Beebe’s coming forward and subsequently being arrested might deter other recovering addicts from completing the 12 step program.

  8. WE ALL ADMIRE YOU LIZ…YOUR’E A VERY BRAVE WOMAN AND SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN THE ANSWERS AND SUPPORT YOU DESERVED A LONG TIME AGO…
    BEST OF LUCK
    XOX

  9. The problem I have with all of this is that Ms. Securro is obviously vindictive and maybe she has a right to be… but this man was obivously going through recovery. Part of the steps to recovery are making amends to those you have hurt in relation to your addiction. This doesn’t excuse what happened though.

    This is a very tough situation and it really comes down to whether or not Ms. Securro wanted to be vindictive and spiteful or if she truly wanted to forgive (she claims to be a forgiving person but actions speak louder than words I am afraid). Obviously she chose the former. I cannot say what I would have done… I just don’t know… but if it was 20+ years after the fact I think I would have let it drop with Mr. Beebe offering to do community service or something similar. At this point I would have seen that there would be no point in putting this man away. Have him try and help others instead of sitting behind bars on the tab of the rest of society.

  10. I would also like to add that there are alot of men in today’s day and age that are wrongly accused of rape on college campuses and unfortunately there are alot of women in administrative positions who believe that consensual sex can still constitute rape if the woman involved has had a few beers, for example.

    I will never forget a seminar on rape and sexual conduct I attended in college directed at men belonging to fraternities. The woman (she held an administrative position at the college) who spoke at the seminar held this position strongly. She even went so far as to imply that women are the only ones who can be raped…. a man can never be raped by a woman. It was at this point that 90% of the guys got up and walked out.

    While Mr. Beebe obviously raped Ms. Securro, it is unfortunate that countless men are being charged with rape when they have done absolutely nothing wrong and are victims themselves of vindictive women and women who may have regretted their actions or got pissed that the guy didn’t call her the next day. You may scoff at this but I know of situations where this exact scenario has taken place.

    Again, Mr. Beebe’s actions were reprehensible and a crime obviously did take place… but I just don’t know if I would have been that vindictive and spiteful this many years after the fact. Unless you have been through it, it is impossible to know the emotional pain that something like this causes; however.

  11. I knew Beebe. I went to high school with him. He was
    a piece of sh*t then and he is a piece of sh*t now.
    Hopefully he is experiencing some of what he caused
    Ms. Securro in jail right now. What a dipsh*t!

  12. I wrestled with the Television documentary on the rape of Liz Securro. The role of forgiveness versus the horror of rape. I did alot of research on her exact situation and I came to the conclusion that she was just terrified and horrified at such a young age. Some things just can’t be forgiven. As for William Beebe I think he did the right thing in order to live with himself. He apologized and is doing time. He will struggle to become gainfully employed after he gets out of prison. While he is there he needs to continue to look to God for answers why his young life went so wrong and to make sure all vestiges of what enabled him to do such a terrible thing are done away with forever. I think he is starting in that direction. I don’t think going to a drugs drenched Greatful Dead concert that night helped. This is also a lesson about alcohol and drugs and how they can mess up not only one person’s life who uses, but also innocent bystanders.

  13. Fuck that bitch she acts like she got beaten and tortured all night long. She got fucked just cause her perfect little world got interrupted she has to go crazy. I dont care what the hell she thinks shes just some stuck up bitch from the suburbs. I hope she continues suffering her whole life.

  14. Women need to stop feeling sorry for themselves. Everything that happens always has to be that of a mans doing all the time. Keep in mind women are not perfect. And we cannot continue to claim that we are equal to men in every way but then use the sympathy factor against them. Be a bigger person and dont be hippocrats women. We have sex as well and unlike contrary belief women do enjoy it. I have never had sex and and had it feel like i was painfully and harmfully injured. Liz needs to wake up out of her perfect world.

  15. Women need to stop feeling sorry for themselves. Everything that happens always has to be that of a mans doing all the time. Keep in mind women are not perfect. And we cannot continue to claim that we are equal to men in every way but then use the sympathy factor against them. Be a bigger person and dont be hippocrats women. We have sex as well and unlike contrary belief women do enjoy it. I have never had sex and and had it feel like i was painfully and harmfully injured. Liz needs to wake up out of her perfect world. But i can tell one thing for sure she is making a big publicity deal out of all this and cashing out. I feel so bad for you as you cry on your way to the bank Liz boo hoo!!!

  16. WOW! LIZ YOU NEED TO PUT THINGS INTO PERSECTIVE, I ALSO WAS RAPED, BY A MAN IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT, IN MY OWN HOME, HE WAS ARMED WIT A BUTCHER KNIFE. I WAS SCARED FOR MY LIFE WAS AWAKE AND CRIED THRU THE WHOLE THING. I AM A NURSE AND HAVE WORKED EMERGENCY ROOMS FOR MANY YEARS I HAVE SEEN MANY TYPES OF HUMAN SUFFERING. YOU NEED THERAPY NOT FOR THE RAPE BUT FOR MANY OTHER THINGS, YOU GOT BAGGAGE LADY. THIS GUY THAT SO OFFENDED YOU IS THE LEAST OF YOUR PROBLEMS. I GUESS YOU CAN TELL, YOUR WHINNY ACCOUNT OF HOW HORRIBLE YOUR LIFE HAS BEEN REALLY GOT ON MY NERVES, LIVE YOUR LIFE ENJOY YOUR DAUGHTER, THANK GOD FOR YOUR HUSBAND, AND QUIT WHINNING. DONT GO TO FRAT PARTIES ALONE DRINK AND THEN CRY POOR PITIFUL ME, LOOK WHAT THEY DID TO ME DROP THE VICTIM ROUTINE.

  17. Liz is cold, calculating, and vindictive. As a woman and a human, I am deeply offended by her. This man came forward and acknowledged that he had done a terrible wrong to her. She sought Vengence pure and simple. She does not have a forgiving bone in her body. He lived with his actions for over twenty years, she had more then enough time to get over it. The fact of the matter is, she has some responsibility in the situation as well. She choose to go to that frat party, she choose to drink what was offered to her without question. She is so busy being hateful and vindictive she seems to have forgotten all about personal responsibility and she plays the poor me card rather then be objective and talk about what she could have done different so there would have been a different outcome.I wish much luck and future sucess to Mr Beebee now that he will never have to deal with the ruthless Liz again, he owes her nothing, now she owes him!

  18. What a bunch of idiots some of you are. It is not acceptable now or was it in 1984 to rape. Those of you who believe alcohol, frat parties, etc are a reason for someone to violate another person you have lots of problems. XXX you are the piece of SHIT! I suspect you are also a rapist…probably should experience the violation of your body in a prison cell, as I’m sure Mr. Beebe will. And for Elisha, I feel for your experience but where is your empathy? Elisha and Sandy, there is no excuse for a rape…date rape or not. Knowing the attacker or not it doesn’t make any difference. Saying no means NO! In my opinion Mr. Beebe got exactly what he deserved only 20 years too late. I also feel for Mr. Seccuro, I am desparately trying to help my wife, my high school sweetheart who was raped on a blind date when she was 17 and a virgin. I didn’t know about it until 37 years later when we found each other again through the grace of God and began the long road to her recovery. Let me tell you from a marriage and family therapist’s view what happens to someone who has experienced a trauma, yes, date rape is a trauma. They have Posttraumatic Stress Disorder, depersonalization, dissociation, multiple personality disorders and many other methods to cope with the horror they experienced. Liz I’d like to work with you to bring this horrible crime to greater public awareness. Over 50% of college girls experience a rape and as you can see most are never reported. Thanks for what you have done for not just women but for the human race.

  19. KEN
    RAPE IS ABOUT CONTROL, WHILE THERE WERE A NUMBER OF HOURS I WAS VERY SCARED FOR MY LIFE, AFTER THE FACT AND THE HUMILIATING EXAM AND AN INCOMPETENT NURSE WHO REFUSED TO LISTEN WHEN I TOLD HER I WAS ALLERGIC TO SULFA TYPE DRUGS SHE KEPT INSISTING I TAKE THE MEDS TO PREVENT VENERAL DISEASE SO I TOOK THEM AND WITHIN 45 MINUTES BROKE OUT IN A HORRIBLE RASH LIPS SWELLING THEN HAD TO GO BACK TO THE HOSPITAL FOR RELIEF. I DO HAVE EMPATHY FOR SOMEONE WHO IS TRYING TO LIVE LIZ IS DETERMINED TO BE STUCK AND CARRY THIS AS A SYMBOL OF WHO SHE IS. I WAS JUST MARRIED 3 MONTHS WHEN THE RAPE OCCURED,YEARS LATER WHEN WE WANTED CHILDREN I DID NOT WANT TO TAKE THE CHANCE OF HAVING A CHILD WHEN I COULD HAVE BEEN EXPOSED TO AIDS THIS ALL OCCURED 20 YEARS AGO AND AIDS WAS RELATIVLY NEW. NOW UNDERSTAND WHEN SOMEONE HURTS YOU AND DOES NOT KNOW YOU, HOW CAN YOU TAKE IT SO PERSONALLY, IT IS NOT ABOUT YOU

  20. I AM SORRY FOR YOU AND YOUR WIFE TO HAVE SUFFERED, BUT TRY LOOKING AT THINGS NOT SO DIRECTED AT YOURSELVES AND UNDERSTAND THAT A RAPISTED IS THE ONE WITH THE PROBLEM AND DONT TAKE IT ON YOURSELF. GO AND WORK ON A CANCER WARD IN A PEDIATRIC HOSPITAL, IT WOULD HELP YOU BOTH WITH PUTTING THIS RAPE IN IT’S PROPER PLACE IT IS NOT THE WORSE THING THAT COULD HAPPEN AND BY THE SAME TOKEN IT IS NOT THE BEST IT FITS IN THE MIDDLE SOMEWHERE. SINCE THE RAPE I HAVE BEEN THRU SOME VERY GOOD TIME AND VERY BAD TIMES, MY HUSBAND THAT FATHERED OUR 2 CHILDREN LEFT AFTER HE ENGAGED IN AN AFFAIR. NOW IF YOU WANT TO DISCUSS HURT, TRAUMA, AND DAMAGE, LOOK IN YOUR SONS EYES WHILE HE ASK MOMA WHEN IS DADDY COMMING TO SEE ME. I HAD A JUNE CLEAVER TYPE LIFE, AND AFTER THE DIVORCE WORKED 3 JOBS TO SUPPORT MY CHILDREN, AND THIS MAN KNEW ME. THE RAPISTED DID NOT KNOW ME AS WELL THE GUY THAT RAPED YOUR WIFE DID NOT KNOW HER. I DID NOT SAY THAT MEN AT FRAT PARTIES COULD HAVE CART BLANCH, BUT AS WOMEN THE VICTIM MENTALITY GETS MY LAST NERVE

  21. DONT PUT YOURSELF IN A SITUATION WHERE YOU HAVE NO OTHER CHOICES, I WAS SINGLE FOR MANY YEARS BEFORE I WAS MARRIED, (GOT MARRIED AT 26) AND WENT TO COLLEGE WENT TO MANY FRAT PARTIES ALWAYS MADE PROVISIONS WITH GIRL FRIENDS, WE WOULD WATCH OUT FOR EACH OTHER, AND WE WOULD NEVER TAKE DRINKS FROM SOMEONE. LIZ SHOULD USE THIS EXPERIENCE TO LEARN SOMETHING, I DID I NOW HAVE LIGHTS AROUND WHERE EVER I LIVE AND BURGULAR ALARMS, I LOOK AT MY HOME THRU THE EYES OF A CRIMINAL AND NOTE PLACES OF ENTRY THAT ARE VUNERABLE. ONCE AGAIN I AM SORRY ABOUT YOUR WIFE, I HOPE SHE CAN LET IT GO AND MOVE FORWARD TO ENJOY YOUR LIVES TOGETHER AND BE THANKFUL THAT GOD HAS GIVEN HER A GREAT HUSBAND, DONT GIVE THE RAPIST ANOTHER MINUTE OF YOUR LIVES TO CONTROL

  22. I was glued to the t.v. the other night. And yes, rape is a terrible thing. But I pray that Liz Securro will finally start to recover. And it’s all in her hands. No longer Mr. Beebe’s. She can’t use him as an excuse anymore. She needs to get the spirit of forgiveness. Which she obviously doesn’t have. This was the perfect example of the saying that the person who refuses to forgive is only hurting themselves. I also pray that Mr. Beebe will be able to get on with his life in a positive manner after his release from jail and find happiness, finally.

  23. I agree with you, Elisha, 150 percent. Liz Securro thrives on her victim-hood. Now that Bebee has apologized to her privately, publicly pled guilty to a crime, and been jailed, she still refuses to begin any kind healing process. Instead, she is on a crusade to find out “who else was there that night.” RIIIGGHHT. Well, good. God forbid she should get on with her life. If any of us should feel sorry for someone in this story, we should feel sorry for Liz Securro’s husband and daughter.

  24. Liz you did the right thing and I agree you are a very brave woman. I saw this yesterday and I think it is great that he is finally paying for his crime. Date-Rape and rape is all too common and usually men get off scott-free and men think it is funny because of this. I don’t feel sorry for Mr. Beebe, he deserves to go to jail with big guys that will rape him if you know what I mean-then he will finally learn the difference between right and wrong, maybe.

    Think about this. He did NOT have any sympathy for her when he raped her. He didn’t have a conscience so why should she. He could have said this is wrong and walk away, but he thought he was king ______He thought he could do what he wanted and get away with it. Men like Beebe need to go to prison and get tortured so they get a taste of their own medicine.

    For all those who have sympathy, he raped a 17 year old girl what is to stop this pervert from raping a little girl, one of your daughters. I get sick of people making excuses for these men.

    To Peter you should have been raped by a man and then see how peace and love BS you are.

  25. Ken,
    you are absolutely right. Everyone else who’s bashing you is an idiot.

  26. I can’t help but read this and wonder how you can think Liz Secccuro is cold or a victim – victims are helpless – Liz is an activist. Her demons showed up in her mailbox 20 years after she tried to move on, her decision to come forward is one of a woman determined to help others by telling her own story, which has nothing to do with her own forgiveness and everything to do with looking to the future.

    I am thankful that someone who has been the victim of a crime like rape is doing what they can to affect change. Her foundation and her willingness to tell her story put a face to a crime too many women have been victims of and most women are unwilling to speak about, they often spend the rest of their lives suffering in silence because the pain is so great.

    As you tuck your daughters into bed, watch them go on their first date or drop them off at college, you should be thankful that because of women like Liz, this crime is something that can be discussed openly in venues like this one and her foundation and story will bring change to a society that is judgemental of a victims need to heal in her own way.

  27. You give her far too much credit.

  28. she loves the spotlight. She gets on tv trying to sound all educated and poor me, poor me. How does anyone know for sure, she might have just gotten piss drunk. I believe he raped he cuz he admitted that, but he reached out for forgiveness and she all gets on tv like some rightous bitch on some big crusade to relive the night it happened and tell the world how horrible her life has been. No doubt it couldn’t have been easy but she is not letting sleeping dogs lie. She’s uprooting her family’s lives so she ca be a tv star. Next we’ll see a movie on lifetime about this courageous, prissy fraternity party going bitch. Give me a break!!!!!!!!! Move in on with your life miss priss

  29. Reading this list of postings makes me so very sad. Why is there so much hate for Liz, the victim? What is it in each of you that causes you to spring forward with so much venom towards a woman you don’t know who has struggled to deal with such a violent and traumatic experience? Why are you so eager to judge her and scorn her for how she has reacted to an event that she did not ask for? I am dumbfounded that your compassion sways towards the attacker. Perhaps it is because she used his apology to bring him to justice? I can imagine that perhaps Mr. Beebe is remorseful and haunted by what he did. His letters and his life seem to indicate as much. But it seems to me that if Mr. Beebe was truly deep down in his heart remorseful he would not have written the letter (which appears to have just victimized Liz all over again) but instead would have come forward to the police with a guilty plea. That is taking true responsibility and feeling true remorse. Why don’t you all cut Liz a break? You have no idea what she has been through (even if you yourself are a survivor; each woman is different, each rape is different, each survivor handles her trauma differently) or what she needs to heal. It seems to me that she has moved on (check out her blog). It is still a part of who she is but I think one thing she was really seeking all this time was to take back the control over the situation that was violently ripped away from her back in 1984. For her, the legal process gave her the control she needed over the situation and I hope has allowed her to heal and finally close this chapter of her life. I wish all of you can open your eyes to see the world beyond your own bubble and your own way of experiencing the world. Have some compassion. I am truly saddened and dumbfounded.

  30. Thanks for the post, SA. It’s my experience that people find it very easy for people to pass judgment remotely.

  31. The break will come when she finally tells the truth. Are you prepared to explain what can only be called outright lies made by Seccuro? Surely she could have done that by now yet she has not. There is so much many choose to just overlook. If the police have an eyewitness to a horrible crime and that witness changes the story multiple times, would you want to know which story was true? Apparently not. Say what you want about Beebe, perhaps it is accurate. Don’t use that though to skip addressing the question of Seccuro’s dishonesty. The bubble comment is ironic. Didn’t she bring the story to us? All of them actually.

  32. Liz – Don’t listen to these idiots. Beebe
    was a complete tool. I KNEW him personnaly.
    A total flake – a real phsychotic. Crazy eyes.
    Obviously an unfeeling twit. Hopefully he took it in the keyster in jail a few times in order to experience some of the suffering he caused you.

  33. He was 19 years old for crap sake. He didn’t have to write her anything. He didn’t have to feel guilty about it at all. But he did. And she goes and files charges against him for something he did when he was 19. Are you kidding? I can tell she has a personality disorder of some kind.

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